They can always be used as a bad example-
Say like - Haebecker
Friday, September 29, 2006
Monday, September 18, 2006
Some Will, Some Won't, So What?
It seems time once again to highlight a few issues that have been discussed in the past but haven’t received any definitive result. It is unfortunate that in this town there are two types of people; those that think whatever the town does is good, shows progress and we’re so lucky. There is another camp that feels that the town breaks lots of rules, if not laws, and they feel helpless, over taxed and disappointed. Sadly, the second camp is also made up of those that apparently don’t vote. If they did, they would make changes.
There is a third camp that is just funny. These are the folks that live out of town but want all the amenities that the town offers (water, sewer etc.) and feel slighted that they can’t vote. Those people aren’t even amusing. Hey, you don’t live here so you can’t vote. When you moved here from Dallas they took your voting privileges away because you don’t live there. Same deal folks. If you don’t live in the town, you can’t vote in the town. So, sit down and be quiet. If you want the vote, then annex into town and bring your community up to town standards and vote to your hearts content. But, no, you don’t want to do that so get over it.
Now, to the voters of Estes Park; Those with short memories, or no more memory at all, this is maybe new (again) to you, but worth a review.
1. The fire district was voted down – Here we go again. Probably if you are in town you won’t get to vote on this, which means that the out of towner’s will have seats on the district board, which is a local town board, and will sway opinion over the fire district. A way for out of towner’s to vote in town. What legal opinion thought that up?
2. The trails (sidewalks) are built with your money in someone else’s community. Why is that possible and what are you doing about it?
3. The town wants to buy, or put money into, Hermit Park. That’s your money being spent out of town. Why is that allowed and why isn’t there a public outcry about it?
4. The school board wants $21 million dollars and has no experience in spending it, although certain administration and staff have been known to steal effectively, with never a public accounting by the school board, and that seems to be ok. You were dumb enough to vote for the hospital bond, are you still voting to waste you money? Oh, well; $150 on a $300K house for the hospital, another $150 for the schools, another $150 for the fire district, and another $150 for the county. Spend away suckers. For you that think this is anti growth, think of it as fiscal responsibility. In addition, that will make it even more impossible for a young family to live here, put their kids in school here and hold a job here. Ah well, only in America.
5. Lots of money has been raised for a performance center and the town has always backed down because they can.
6. Merchants, for years, have complained about the craft fairs and out of town vendors selling merchandise without business licenses or a way to insure they pay tax. That goes unchallenged.
7. The town wants Wilderness designation for the national park, but has no idea what effect it might have on our community. Boy, that’s clear thinking and good planning. Yet the citizens join the rally like lemmings.
Now for the action-
1. Are you registered to vote?
2. Do you really educate yourselves on the issues?
3. Will you commit to actually vote? 85% or more don’t vote so that’s a fair question.
4. Will you ask your friends and neighbors about the issues and discuss them?
Isn’t it time you accepted some responsibility for the community in which you live?
5. Will you call a trustee and hold them accountable? They are as uninformed as you are, it would shock you.
6. Those that want more money for schools so the kiddies won’t be ignorant, lead by example. Fight for the community that you want.
Amen
There is a third camp that is just funny. These are the folks that live out of town but want all the amenities that the town offers (water, sewer etc.) and feel slighted that they can’t vote. Those people aren’t even amusing. Hey, you don’t live here so you can’t vote. When you moved here from Dallas they took your voting privileges away because you don’t live there. Same deal folks. If you don’t live in the town, you can’t vote in the town. So, sit down and be quiet. If you want the vote, then annex into town and bring your community up to town standards and vote to your hearts content. But, no, you don’t want to do that so get over it.
Now, to the voters of Estes Park; Those with short memories, or no more memory at all, this is maybe new (again) to you, but worth a review.
1. The fire district was voted down – Here we go again. Probably if you are in town you won’t get to vote on this, which means that the out of towner’s will have seats on the district board, which is a local town board, and will sway opinion over the fire district. A way for out of towner’s to vote in town. What legal opinion thought that up?
2. The trails (sidewalks) are built with your money in someone else’s community. Why is that possible and what are you doing about it?
3. The town wants to buy, or put money into, Hermit Park. That’s your money being spent out of town. Why is that allowed and why isn’t there a public outcry about it?
4. The school board wants $21 million dollars and has no experience in spending it, although certain administration and staff have been known to steal effectively, with never a public accounting by the school board, and that seems to be ok. You were dumb enough to vote for the hospital bond, are you still voting to waste you money? Oh, well; $150 on a $300K house for the hospital, another $150 for the schools, another $150 for the fire district, and another $150 for the county. Spend away suckers. For you that think this is anti growth, think of it as fiscal responsibility. In addition, that will make it even more impossible for a young family to live here, put their kids in school here and hold a job here. Ah well, only in America.
5. Lots of money has been raised for a performance center and the town has always backed down because they can.
6. Merchants, for years, have complained about the craft fairs and out of town vendors selling merchandise without business licenses or a way to insure they pay tax. That goes unchallenged.
7. The town wants Wilderness designation for the national park, but has no idea what effect it might have on our community. Boy, that’s clear thinking and good planning. Yet the citizens join the rally like lemmings.
Now for the action-
1. Are you registered to vote?
2. Do you really educate yourselves on the issues?
3. Will you commit to actually vote? 85% or more don’t vote so that’s a fair question.
4. Will you ask your friends and neighbors about the issues and discuss them?
Isn’t it time you accepted some responsibility for the community in which you live?
5. Will you call a trustee and hold them accountable? They are as uninformed as you are, it would shock you.
6. Those that want more money for schools so the kiddies won’t be ignorant, lead by example. Fight for the community that you want.
Amen
Sunday, September 17, 2006
A Soup to Thick to Sip - Just Close Your Eyes and Drink,,,OR ELSE!
The Estes Parkian has poured over the Estes Park comprehensive master plan, town ordinances, town practices, political speeches and have yet to discover the plan that unites the Estes Valley.
It is a grand mystery why the town does not want all those unincorporated developments that envelope Estes Park actually a part of Estes Park. The mayor appoints citizens of unincorporated Larimer County to town commissions and boards. We provide services, water, electric, police, fire, as far as the eye can see. So what’s the political poop, do we not want them or do they not want us?
Shouldn’t Estes Park elected town leaders work to unite the valley, instead of divide it further? That what this fire district is doing. Do we really need one more elected board that the town trustees will eventually war with? Isn’t this getting a little bit out of hand, one more elected group of officials? Shouldn’t we be simplifying our local government not gumming the wheels with more politics?
Do I get to vote on this, who is accountable for what, who do I call to get action, what’s mine – yours – ours?
On the surface it seems reasonable to say okay the town wants (they have not demonstrated a need) more money for a department of the town and what would be the harm in asking for a little contribution from the neighbors that have been feeding off of the good nature of the town?
It’s when you start looking at the details that one questions the wisdom of all those involved.
Two years ago the town trustees asked its citizens to turn a town department into a regional district, create a fire district to change funding from the general fund of the town to a special additional tax and Estes Park turned that policy change down . The citizens of Estes Park voted to keep the fire department a town department, funded by the town’s general fund, under the control of their elected representatives, the trustees.
Did your town mayor listen to you or does he know better that you? Did he listen to your vote Estes Park?
The mayor and the town administrator, not giving up the notion of feeding the town’s ample general fund, threatened unincorporated Larimer County’s access to town owned emergency services if they do not form a fire district and give them the money.
It’s pretty easy to see what the town is up to it is simply about more money, not expanded services, not valley unity, not a better fire department, more money.
You really have to question the home owner associations in unincorporated Larimer county that are all excited to impose a tax on themselves for what? What are you getting for your money? No more threats from the school yard bully, go ahead and give the bully your milk money, but what are you really getting in return a wink and a nod and a promise and yet one more board to elect.
You people are being led on a fool’s errand. Have you hired your own legal advisors to examine the details of what you are entering into and who you are getting advice from? Let me see if I have got this right; the Mayor of Estes Park, the town administrator of Estes Park, the fire chief of Estes Park and most probably the towns’ attorney all are leading your parade. Again let me repeat myself, did you hire your own independent legal advisors to help you set up your district? Or did you just go to the county judge to get on the ballot?
The mayors own constituency turned him down two years ago at the ballot box for a fire district, so this time he eliminated his own constituency from the political equation and you want to partner up with him. So who are you going to call when there is an issue with fire protection in the future; the mayor, the fire chief, your fire district elected official or your home owners association?
Can the mayor of Estes Park accomplish something administratively that he was refused legislatively by his own constituency? If the surrounding areas create a new fire district are you prepared to build your own infrastructure, purchase your own trucks and build your own stations? The devil is in the details and you have reacted emotionally to a threat, understandable, but unwise to trust the town’s legal acumen. Check the history of the towns attorney in that regard it is scary.
This will be interesting to see how the ballot will be handled. If you live in Estes Park you will be voting on the School District Bond issue, but you will not be voting on the Fire district issue? If you live in unincorporated Larimer County you get to vote on them both.Do you live outside the school district and live within the proposed fire district? Good luck with that one!
By the way.
Estes Park citizens will not get to vote on an issue effecting a town department.
Only in Estes Park!
It is a grand mystery why the town does not want all those unincorporated developments that envelope Estes Park actually a part of Estes Park. The mayor appoints citizens of unincorporated Larimer County to town commissions and boards. We provide services, water, electric, police, fire, as far as the eye can see. So what’s the political poop, do we not want them or do they not want us?
Shouldn’t Estes Park elected town leaders work to unite the valley, instead of divide it further? That what this fire district is doing. Do we really need one more elected board that the town trustees will eventually war with? Isn’t this getting a little bit out of hand, one more elected group of officials? Shouldn’t we be simplifying our local government not gumming the wheels with more politics?
Do I get to vote on this, who is accountable for what, who do I call to get action, what’s mine – yours – ours?
On the surface it seems reasonable to say okay the town wants (they have not demonstrated a need) more money for a department of the town and what would be the harm in asking for a little contribution from the neighbors that have been feeding off of the good nature of the town?
It’s when you start looking at the details that one questions the wisdom of all those involved.
Two years ago the town trustees asked its citizens to turn a town department into a regional district, create a fire district to change funding from the general fund of the town to a special additional tax and Estes Park turned that policy change down . The citizens of Estes Park voted to keep the fire department a town department, funded by the town’s general fund, under the control of their elected representatives, the trustees.
Did your town mayor listen to you or does he know better that you? Did he listen to your vote Estes Park?
The mayor and the town administrator, not giving up the notion of feeding the town’s ample general fund, threatened unincorporated Larimer County’s access to town owned emergency services if they do not form a fire district and give them the money.
It’s pretty easy to see what the town is up to it is simply about more money, not expanded services, not valley unity, not a better fire department, more money.
You really have to question the home owner associations in unincorporated Larimer county that are all excited to impose a tax on themselves for what? What are you getting for your money? No more threats from the school yard bully, go ahead and give the bully your milk money, but what are you really getting in return a wink and a nod and a promise and yet one more board to elect.
You people are being led on a fool’s errand. Have you hired your own legal advisors to examine the details of what you are entering into and who you are getting advice from? Let me see if I have got this right; the Mayor of Estes Park, the town administrator of Estes Park, the fire chief of Estes Park and most probably the towns’ attorney all are leading your parade. Again let me repeat myself, did you hire your own independent legal advisors to help you set up your district? Or did you just go to the county judge to get on the ballot?
The mayors own constituency turned him down two years ago at the ballot box for a fire district, so this time he eliminated his own constituency from the political equation and you want to partner up with him. So who are you going to call when there is an issue with fire protection in the future; the mayor, the fire chief, your fire district elected official or your home owners association?
Can the mayor of Estes Park accomplish something administratively that he was refused legislatively by his own constituency? If the surrounding areas create a new fire district are you prepared to build your own infrastructure, purchase your own trucks and build your own stations? The devil is in the details and you have reacted emotionally to a threat, understandable, but unwise to trust the town’s legal acumen. Check the history of the towns attorney in that regard it is scary.
This will be interesting to see how the ballot will be handled. If you live in Estes Park you will be voting on the School District Bond issue, but you will not be voting on the Fire district issue? If you live in unincorporated Larimer County you get to vote on them both.Do you live outside the school district and live within the proposed fire district? Good luck with that one!
By the way.
Estes Park citizens will not get to vote on an issue effecting a town department.
Only in Estes Park!
Friday, September 08, 2006
More Money? You Must Be Joking!
It seems as though everyone has an opinion on the bond issues to come before us. Wouldn’t it be enlightening to have some perspective on the issues to see what outcome would be best? Certainly that is a novel idea in Estes Park, with numerous questionable changes that have taken place without public input or comment and without any vote at all.
The Town is requesting a fire district be created throughout the valley. There is no clear explanation of the need for a fire district, but this is what Baudek, et.al. have to say:
“Wouldn’t it be a shame if we got down the road and had to limit services?” Note- they didn’t say they would limit services, just that “wouldn’t it be a shame.”
The more important question is: How responsible is the Town with money? The claim is always: “We need more money.”
There have been some recent expenses that should be scrutinized very carefully before one even considers approving more money going to these morons.
$300,000 earmarked for empty polluting busses that nobody wanted and nobody was asked about and nobody had the opportunity to vote for.
$500,000 for our 47% share of sidewalks to be built in another community, not in our Town, but paid for by the local taxpayers.
$60,000 for the pool that the schools are supposed to run (the schools are asking for more money in a bond issue to add to the budget they can’t now manage in running the pool).
How much? $200,000 to $300,000 that the Town wants to give to the county to help pay for a park which is not in our Town, not part of a county or Town plan on protecting our gateway. Just a “good idea” thought up by the idiot Town Manager, Mayor and Trustees. Baudek has said- What if they build a WalMart?
No one, not HP, the county, the state, NO ONE has suggested that this property be used for commercial purposes, but even if they did, it is none of the Town of Estes Parks business. Not with my money!
Approximately $300,000 to support the Scotfest. Did you vote for that? Oh, that’s right, you don’t vote. The Scotfest does very little for the Estes economy because they don’t collect tax. The shoppers who would be downtown helping our taxpaying merchants are at the fair grounds. Net gain, loss of at least $200,000, but Baudek gets to ride in the parade.
That’s well over $1,300,000 given for out of town projects, and these are just examples of dozens of like projects that get sponsored- Kayak course, the Knoll, re-model of Town Hall (twice), upcoming performance center, on and on. That’s real money folks, and it’s ours.
They can’t take care of the Town, much less everyone else. It would be complete stupidity if anyone votes for a fire district. This Town is always on the prowl for more money and they can’t spend if fast enough. The truth is that if they had more money for a fire district they would take the money they now spend on fire protection and put it toward more infrastructure, higher salaries and more give-a-ways to nearby communities. This has to stop.
Project by project this Town has shown that they are not fiscally responsible. Our money gets shuffled off to pet projects and is not spent to benefit the tax payers. These people are out of control and should never get access to more money.
Maybe, for once, people will be smart enough to vote and to turn down any request for money which will not benefit this Town one bit. Vote NO, Vote NO, Vote NO!
The Town is requesting a fire district be created throughout the valley. There is no clear explanation of the need for a fire district, but this is what Baudek, et.al. have to say:
“Wouldn’t it be a shame if we got down the road and had to limit services?” Note- they didn’t say they would limit services, just that “wouldn’t it be a shame.”
The more important question is: How responsible is the Town with money? The claim is always: “We need more money.”
There have been some recent expenses that should be scrutinized very carefully before one even considers approving more money going to these morons.
$300,000 earmarked for empty polluting busses that nobody wanted and nobody was asked about and nobody had the opportunity to vote for.
$500,000 for our 47% share of sidewalks to be built in another community, not in our Town, but paid for by the local taxpayers.
$60,000 for the pool that the schools are supposed to run (the schools are asking for more money in a bond issue to add to the budget they can’t now manage in running the pool).
How much? $200,000 to $300,000 that the Town wants to give to the county to help pay for a park which is not in our Town, not part of a county or Town plan on protecting our gateway. Just a “good idea” thought up by the idiot Town Manager, Mayor and Trustees. Baudek has said- What if they build a WalMart?
No one, not HP, the county, the state, NO ONE has suggested that this property be used for commercial purposes, but even if they did, it is none of the Town of Estes Parks business. Not with my money!
Approximately $300,000 to support the Scotfest. Did you vote for that? Oh, that’s right, you don’t vote. The Scotfest does very little for the Estes economy because they don’t collect tax. The shoppers who would be downtown helping our taxpaying merchants are at the fair grounds. Net gain, loss of at least $200,000, but Baudek gets to ride in the parade.
That’s well over $1,300,000 given for out of town projects, and these are just examples of dozens of like projects that get sponsored- Kayak course, the Knoll, re-model of Town Hall (twice), upcoming performance center, on and on. That’s real money folks, and it’s ours.
They can’t take care of the Town, much less everyone else. It would be complete stupidity if anyone votes for a fire district. This Town is always on the prowl for more money and they can’t spend if fast enough. The truth is that if they had more money for a fire district they would take the money they now spend on fire protection and put it toward more infrastructure, higher salaries and more give-a-ways to nearby communities. This has to stop.
Project by project this Town has shown that they are not fiscally responsible. Our money gets shuffled off to pet projects and is not spent to benefit the tax payers. These people are out of control and should never get access to more money.
Maybe, for once, people will be smart enough to vote and to turn down any request for money which will not benefit this Town one bit. Vote NO, Vote NO, Vote NO!
Zombies On A Bus: A Political Study
During the Regan era we all experienced the phenomenon of voodoo economics, in Estes Park we have our own version, it’s called zombie politics.
Estes Park politics, sans the mountains surrounding the Valley, minus all the visitors driving the areas economy; we are a community of people. The interactions of the people in the Valley are its politics.
Estes Park citizens interacting and maneuvering amongst each other, manipulating, posturing , vying to improve their status, stature, income or influence; politics. When people use the word politics it’s generally with bile after taste, but there is no getting away, you are all involved.
Every one that lives in the Estes Valley is a player in our political game, there being no cocoon, you may claim a moral high road, you can be an active manipulator, but the common ground is you are all still players. You have a roll and you have civic responsibilities, you may personally choose not to vote by pulling a bag over your head and retreating into a hole, this does not negate your responsibility; politicians simply slot you into the roll of inert placatory zombie. Your silent indifference and avoidance of accountability is translated as affirmation. Saying nothing is translated as you must mean yes. If you do not oppose than you must be supportive. In a small town the common habit is to ignore the goings on and then claim you didn’t know, or you assumed, plausible deniability.
Out of thousands of registered citizen voter’s only eight hundred votes, the difference in the election of your leaders is ten or twenty votes, how is this considered a mandate? Why do the other thousands of people bother to register, you never vote, do you consider registering your civic duty? Is your silent voice saying I didn’t vote so one way or the other I have no ownership, you can’t blame me because I find politics distasteful?
The silent, placating, nonvoting, inert, no opinion, majority is assumed, by the ruling politico, to be an army of support. The utter lack of involvement in a small town is devastating. The odd dynamics of Estes Park make for odd politics, the breeding of zombies.
The local long term zombies having lived here for twenty or thirty years, feel that time on task entitles them to some magic insight or special voice. It does not, whenever you preface your comments with “I have been here for twenty five years and” one has to wonder what type of special zombie you amount to. You have exactly the same problems today that you had thirty years ago, only bigger, zombies chasing their tails. How many times have you voted in those twenty five years?
Town staff has this placating inert majority so dialed in that they know for a fact that they can spend your money for what ever they want in $500,000.00 chunks and no one notices! The total bill may be 2, 3, 4 million, but if it goes out in one half million dollar chunks its okay, no one notices! Your town officials have become so addicted to the zombie populace politics that they ignore state statutes, major laws, town ordinances and common sense.
Just one recent example to magnify our point, we have recently highlighted a program here in the Este Parkian in past articles to track the politics. So we will continue to use it as an example, what do you know, what do you think you know and what is really going on.
Roll back to a recent article in the trail and free press, authored by Hizzonor and all the politics involved with this one release. The article goes on about how successful his mass transit program is. $300,000.00 dollars committed to running buses up and down Elkhorn. Any time of day that you see one of these buses they are empty, but numbers from staff say they carry 5,000 people per day, “better than Denver.” The zombie corps swallows this hook line and sinker, just believable enough to take off the edge, could be, and seems plausible, just trying to reduce traffic by adding buses into the gridlock is the explanation. Let’s all ignore reality and substitute a reality of our own choosing.
You are a zombie and you didn’t require your elected officials to justify the expenditure prior to committing half a million dollars, why would you require anything more than rhetoric and made up numbers concerning the operation? Smoke is smoke; after all you do not have ownership now do you?
You as a zombie inert person assume that the town studied this project in depth, created targets, built in accounting devices, projected cause and effect, identified a major issue, considered a menu of solutions and selected the optimal one, all in the public eye. If you assume this you are wrong it never happened, claims of success are not affirmable just fodder for the zombies.
Hizzonor had the absolute gall to invite you to ride his buses and join the team and view the convenience on the last day of the season, a free ride for the visitor. That’s awful nice of him don’t you think, but Hizzoner understands zombies do not ride buses and you will not. BUT, you were invited. You didn’t say no, so you must mean yes.
This whole bus business was supposedly modeled after systems somewhere in Bum Rush Maine, and Polygamy, Utah, that being the soul justification. It works there so we will do it here.
Well your honor, there are a lot of things that go on in Utah that I would not emulate. A mass transit system developed after an avalanche in an off the beat and path little park made auto travel in that park dangerous, is not the same thing as motoring in RMNP.
Do you think you understand the Mayors bum’s rush to Wilderness designation for RMNP? What about the mayor and town administrator’s vehement opposition to economic studies of their own town? Hold your horses Musgrave you know not who you are dealing with here, do not feed real data to our zombies when smoke up the kazoo will do.
Still think you understand this major expenditure for a bussing experiment and the towns hunger for Wilderness designation for RMNP? Are they related? What about its relationship to the town’s authority to build the visitors center and conduct the marketing functions the CVB assumed by evicting the Chamber of Commerce? Currently this case is being heard by the states appeals court when the Chamber legally questioned the town’s authority to do so as a statutory town. Are these somehow all related?
Zombies do not know - they do not care - they do not stay informed and they do not vote.
P + Z = GD
Politics + Zombies = Goofy Politics
Zombies = Goofy
Estes Park politics, sans the mountains surrounding the Valley, minus all the visitors driving the areas economy; we are a community of people. The interactions of the people in the Valley are its politics.
Estes Park citizens interacting and maneuvering amongst each other, manipulating, posturing , vying to improve their status, stature, income or influence; politics. When people use the word politics it’s generally with bile after taste, but there is no getting away, you are all involved.
Every one that lives in the Estes Valley is a player in our political game, there being no cocoon, you may claim a moral high road, you can be an active manipulator, but the common ground is you are all still players. You have a roll and you have civic responsibilities, you may personally choose not to vote by pulling a bag over your head and retreating into a hole, this does not negate your responsibility; politicians simply slot you into the roll of inert placatory zombie. Your silent indifference and avoidance of accountability is translated as affirmation. Saying nothing is translated as you must mean yes. If you do not oppose than you must be supportive. In a small town the common habit is to ignore the goings on and then claim you didn’t know, or you assumed, plausible deniability.
Out of thousands of registered citizen voter’s only eight hundred votes, the difference in the election of your leaders is ten or twenty votes, how is this considered a mandate? Why do the other thousands of people bother to register, you never vote, do you consider registering your civic duty? Is your silent voice saying I didn’t vote so one way or the other I have no ownership, you can’t blame me because I find politics distasteful?
The silent, placating, nonvoting, inert, no opinion, majority is assumed, by the ruling politico, to be an army of support. The utter lack of involvement in a small town is devastating. The odd dynamics of Estes Park make for odd politics, the breeding of zombies.
The local long term zombies having lived here for twenty or thirty years, feel that time on task entitles them to some magic insight or special voice. It does not, whenever you preface your comments with “I have been here for twenty five years and” one has to wonder what type of special zombie you amount to. You have exactly the same problems today that you had thirty years ago, only bigger, zombies chasing their tails. How many times have you voted in those twenty five years?
Town staff has this placating inert majority so dialed in that they know for a fact that they can spend your money for what ever they want in $500,000.00 chunks and no one notices! The total bill may be 2, 3, 4 million, but if it goes out in one half million dollar chunks its okay, no one notices! Your town officials have become so addicted to the zombie populace politics that they ignore state statutes, major laws, town ordinances and common sense.
Just one recent example to magnify our point, we have recently highlighted a program here in the Este Parkian in past articles to track the politics. So we will continue to use it as an example, what do you know, what do you think you know and what is really going on.
Roll back to a recent article in the trail and free press, authored by Hizzonor and all the politics involved with this one release. The article goes on about how successful his mass transit program is. $300,000.00 dollars committed to running buses up and down Elkhorn. Any time of day that you see one of these buses they are empty, but numbers from staff say they carry 5,000 people per day, “better than Denver.” The zombie corps swallows this hook line and sinker, just believable enough to take off the edge, could be, and seems plausible, just trying to reduce traffic by adding buses into the gridlock is the explanation. Let’s all ignore reality and substitute a reality of our own choosing.
You are a zombie and you didn’t require your elected officials to justify the expenditure prior to committing half a million dollars, why would you require anything more than rhetoric and made up numbers concerning the operation? Smoke is smoke; after all you do not have ownership now do you?
You as a zombie inert person assume that the town studied this project in depth, created targets, built in accounting devices, projected cause and effect, identified a major issue, considered a menu of solutions and selected the optimal one, all in the public eye. If you assume this you are wrong it never happened, claims of success are not affirmable just fodder for the zombies.
Hizzonor had the absolute gall to invite you to ride his buses and join the team and view the convenience on the last day of the season, a free ride for the visitor. That’s awful nice of him don’t you think, but Hizzoner understands zombies do not ride buses and you will not. BUT, you were invited. You didn’t say no, so you must mean yes.
This whole bus business was supposedly modeled after systems somewhere in Bum Rush Maine, and Polygamy, Utah, that being the soul justification. It works there so we will do it here.
Well your honor, there are a lot of things that go on in Utah that I would not emulate. A mass transit system developed after an avalanche in an off the beat and path little park made auto travel in that park dangerous, is not the same thing as motoring in RMNP.
Do you think you understand the Mayors bum’s rush to Wilderness designation for RMNP? What about the mayor and town administrator’s vehement opposition to economic studies of their own town? Hold your horses Musgrave you know not who you are dealing with here, do not feed real data to our zombies when smoke up the kazoo will do.
Still think you understand this major expenditure for a bussing experiment and the towns hunger for Wilderness designation for RMNP? Are they related? What about its relationship to the town’s authority to build the visitors center and conduct the marketing functions the CVB assumed by evicting the Chamber of Commerce? Currently this case is being heard by the states appeals court when the Chamber legally questioned the town’s authority to do so as a statutory town. Are these somehow all related?
Zombies do not know - they do not care - they do not stay informed and they do not vote.
P + Z = GD
Politics + Zombies = Goofy Politics
Zombies = Goofy
Monday, September 04, 2006
Who Pays For The Trails and Why?
Isn’t it great to see the trails being built throughout the town? Generous groups have contributed to the trail system that will eventually be built along the remainder of Fish Creek and along Mary’s Lake Road etc. Of the contributors, those of us who pay tax in Estes Park have paid 47% of the cost.
Do all residents along Fish Creek pay Estes Park taxes? Hell no! Nor do they pay taxes along Mary’s Lake Road or many other areas that are targeted to be in the system. This is another idiotic plan put in place by EPURA and the idiot Trustees to avoid doing what they were supposed to do which was to help the downtown district improve business.
Why are the citizens of Estes Park paying for this system? Why do they pay even one dollar to build trails out of town? Just being neighborly? This is stupid and of no benefit to our Town. Do we really have so much money that there are no other needs we could fill? The answer to that is yes, we have too much money. This corrupt Town has been fleecing us for years and its time we said NO MORE!
Bond issues need passing? The quick answer is no, but this will be discussed in detail in the near future. Stay tuned.
Do all residents along Fish Creek pay Estes Park taxes? Hell no! Nor do they pay taxes along Mary’s Lake Road or many other areas that are targeted to be in the system. This is another idiotic plan put in place by EPURA and the idiot Trustees to avoid doing what they were supposed to do which was to help the downtown district improve business.
Why are the citizens of Estes Park paying for this system? Why do they pay even one dollar to build trails out of town? Just being neighborly? This is stupid and of no benefit to our Town. Do we really have so much money that there are no other needs we could fill? The answer to that is yes, we have too much money. This corrupt Town has been fleecing us for years and its time we said NO MORE!
Bond issues need passing? The quick answer is no, but this will be discussed in detail in the near future. Stay tuned.